tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post4304157302288971177..comments2024-03-28T03:13:28.585-04:00Comments on Beauty, and What It Means: Beauty Blogosphere 4.23.12Autumn Whitefield-Madranohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03379314479257695986noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-32822459395038782392012-04-24T10:13:10.768-04:002012-04-24T10:13:10.768-04:00It's funny how for something we think of as ha...It's funny how for something we think of as having "rules," modesty really is subjective. What is the end goal? To show that you think of yourself as a person of God, not of flesh? To not be vain and call attention to oneself? I think of the Hasidic Jewish women here who wear fitted knee-length skirts but cover their hair with wigs--that's definitely modest, but if you squint it's just sort of a retro fashion sense. Is that modest? Is that the point?Autumn Whitefield-Madranohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379314479257695986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-65953996864645565652012-04-23T23:07:48.396-04:002012-04-23T23:07:48.396-04:00That "modesty" article is great!
It'...That "modesty" article is great!<br /><br />It's fascinating how subjective the whole idea of 'modest' dress is--- the clothes, piercings, and hair colors that are modest/acceptable in contrarykiwi's church would have gotten me in huuuuuge trouble with mine. To some extent, they did; I had five earrings until the LDS prophet announced that women shouldn't have more than two, and when I shaved my head... ... hoo boy. <br /><br />BUT! My uncovered head, knee-length shorts, and short-sleeved shirts could all have seemed scandalous to women from other faiths. More than once I've walked past a woman in a hijab or old-fashioned Mennonite dress and thought "Wait, does she think I'm sleazy?"Rebekah Jauntyhttp://www.jauntydame.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-38055749579460177622012-04-23T16:47:21.248-04:002012-04-23T16:47:21.248-04:00Thanks! I will check out the article.Thanks! I will check out the article.Kourtney L.http://samvidbeauty.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-22897004688120423972012-04-23T14:55:22.667-04:002012-04-23T14:55:22.667-04:00I absolutely think there's room for being out ...I absolutely think there's room for being out of the box with hair. I don't know if you saw this piece I wrote a ways back about the short hair-long hair thing, but in a nutshell: I think that the importance of long hair is actually overstated, having gone from very very long to very very short and seeing the varied reactions I got. <br /><br />http://jezebel.com/5857858/in-defense-of-the-short+haired-woman<br /><br />Whatever the case, your bob looks awesome!Autumn Whitefield-Madranohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379314479257695986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-85281548284888738002012-04-23T14:49:44.523-04:002012-04-23T14:49:44.523-04:00Yes, write it up! I'm really bad about throwin...Yes, write it up! I'm really bad about throwing stuff out, obvs, and I'm also the least germophobic person out there and so I probably use all sorts of products way past when I should. I'm about the function: I threw out some mascara and lipsticks recently because they really had just stopped working--the mascara wand was all clumpy and dull, the lipstick had somehow gone grainy. (Mind you, I've had this lipstick for 10 years, ha!) But yeah, eyeshadow? As long as you've got it!Autumn Whitefield-Madranohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379314479257695986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-36467560688489881662012-04-23T14:42:50.331-04:002012-04-23T14:42:50.331-04:00What a nice surprise to see my bob here!
This wee...What a nice surprise to see my bob here!<br /><br />This weekend I actually spotted a new do on celebrity Cameron Diaz. She is on the cover of an InStle magazine (http://news.instyle.com/2012/04/17/cameron-diaz-may-2012-cover/). <br /><br />While short hair is the the typical and go-to style for beauty, attractiveness, and sex appeal, maybe there is hope of being outside the box?Korutney L.http://samvidbeauty.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-31143195069555989972012-04-23T14:10:53.925-04:002012-04-23T14:10:53.925-04:00I skipped down to this part due to the photo of th...I skipped down to this part due to the photo of the pile of makeup (it warmed my addicted heart):<br /><br />I toss out expired makeup, but sometimes it's hard to tell when something is truly expired. I've found the easiest products to tell are lip products. Glosses will start to go rancid after awhile, especially if they're in an open palette. I usually use up or give away foundations before they expire.<br /><br />The product I toss out most frequency is mascara. I replace mine every 3 months as directed by makeup artists. I figured since it's so close to my eyeballs, I'm not taking any risks!<br /><br />The expiration dates I most disagree with are those for eyeshadows. I think cream eyeshadows should be thrown out ever 2 years as directed because they're more prone to harboring bacteria. However, it makes NO sense to toss out powdered eyeshadows after 2 years. I barely make a dent in mine! My rule of thumb is as long as you don't want powdered eyeshadow and clean it semi-regularly, it's fine for up to 4 years.<br /><br />That was long.<br /><br />Maybe I should write a blog post about this. LOLAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03703150053201639138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-82230865809407001032012-04-23T12:14:45.134-04:002012-04-23T12:14:45.134-04:00If you haven't read the piece I was linking to...If you haven't read the piece I was linking to, you definitely should--it's pretty much exactly about this, the idea that dressing in a showy way is anything but modest, regardless of the amount of skin one shows. I do think it's modest, but it's a different sort of modesty. When I dress showily it's usually not seductively--but then, here I'm equating modesty with *how I feel*, not *how I'm probably perceived*, in the sense that when I say "seductively" it means *I feel seductive*, not that anyone on the street would look at me and think I was being sexually immodest, if that makes sense. "Modesty" can definitely be used for slut-shaming because of the externalization of modesty, which makes it problematic.<br /><br />And YES to the "conditional compliment." I always find smiling and saying "thank you" is the best way to handle it, but I also find that there's a certain sort of man who wants to believe nobody has ever told you you're beautiful before, like you're some rare and special flower only he can see. And saying "thank you" with a smile crushes that illusion.Autumn Whitefield-Madranohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379314479257695986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-32653222646543414782012-04-23T12:08:27.526-04:002012-04-23T12:08:27.526-04:00It's a really rich topic, because I totally he...It's a really rich topic, because I totally hear you on the hop, skip, and jump between "modesty" and slut-shaming. At the same time, I also know that when I've purposefully worn modest clothes, it's changed something within me--I don't think I usually dress *to be looked at*, but then when I've purposefully dressed modestly and I really really don't want to be looked at, I see how differently I feel from most days. My stride is more relaxed, my gaze is on the world instead of on people (which isn't necessarily a positive thing, mind you). So I think there's something there about dressing modestly as a way of altering one's own attitude--but then I really don't want to say, "Oh, well, I'm finally learning to remove myself from the eyes of temptation" because that's all whore-of-Babylony, you know?<br /><br />That's so interesting to me that you were fingered as a "modest dresser" by the Is This Modest community despite not identifying with that at all. Goes to show how much of modesty really is about an external vision, not one's internal state.Autumn Whitefield-Madranohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379314479257695986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-77687518502457855132012-04-23T06:36:18.174-04:002012-04-23T06:36:18.174-04:00I'm also interested in the modesty point becau...I'm also interested in the modesty point because dressing "modestly" is something that I am quite keen on, but am probably going to be rephrasing because although I'm quite happy to set limits on the amount of flesh I show (because of my faith) I'm also quite happy to be ridiculously showy in what I wear. Modesty, then, isn't the right word (actually checked the definition to make sure). I want to dress in a way that respects my body - according to my beliefs, no one else's - and part of that respect is to dress flamboyantly, shave my head and not wear miniskirts.<br /><br />What really got me was the TED talk by Tony Porter that was posted in that Dear Daughter letter. But to comment on what you actually posted, what that older man said to the daughter was ridiculous! Talk about giving a conditional compliment. It reminded me of the many times people have complimented me on something and I've said "thanks, I know :)". Sometimes it shocks people that I'm owning that I'm pretty!contrary kiwihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16428115203292488140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-84112532376648103402012-04-23T04:23:32.387-04:002012-04-23T04:23:32.387-04:00I'm interested in the modesty point, because w...I'm interested in the modesty point, because when i first came accross the term, I had no idea that it meant 'covered up' and only thought of it in terms of 'not showing off' or possibly plain/chape ('a man of modest means'). My very first post on the topic here: http://www.oranges-and-apples.com/2010/01/modest-dressing.html<br /><br />I am very very uncomfortable with the concept of modest dressing, because it so often goes seamlessly into slut shaming. The only explanation i have ver been given that made sense to me was 'my religious rules forbid it and it is important to me to e part of this religious group', but most other explnations are full of these really questionable taken for granted assumptions about boys and girls sexuality and morality as defined through appearance not actions. <br /><br />I get a lot of people coming to my blog searching for 'modest fashion blog', my hope is that maybe some of them will question things just a little bit.Francahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05495421838862275042noreply@blogger.com