tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post9074860299946743694..comments2024-03-18T06:47:36.697-04:00Comments on Beauty, and What It Means: Beauty Blogosphere 8.3.12Autumn Whitefield-Madranohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03379314479257695986noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-15958922010652208162012-08-08T08:39:47.677-04:002012-08-08T08:39:47.677-04:00Ebhe, you're absolutely correct, and I should ...Ebhe, you're absolutely correct, and I should have been clear that my own anecdotal observations (about the number of vegetarians/vegans I know who have had troubling eating patterns) was not reflected in the study (which, as you point out, was about people with eating disorders, not vegetarians).<br /><br />And I'm glad to hear you articulate that control isn't a factor in your own food choices. I'm intrigued by the idea that if you don't see something as food per se, it ceases to be a control issue--I don't care for doughnuts so never have them, but obviously I'm not "restricting" when there's a plate of doughnuts at the office and I pass them up. Interesting viewpoint! In any case, I'm glad to hear your views on this, and on anything else in the future! Thank you for reading.Autumn Whitefield-Madranohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379314479257695986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-19786466589995158462012-08-06T11:02:30.726-04:002012-08-06T11:02:30.726-04:00It's important to be clear that a study sugges...It's important to be clear that a study suggesting most people with eating disorders are/have been vegetarian does not say anything about whether the majority of vegetarians have/have had eating disorders. I am not surprised by the study's findings - identifying to yourself and others as vegetarian gives you a socially recognisable reason for avoiding certain groups of food. For this reason I would be interested to see a similar study with people who avoid gluten or dairy etc, although considering those aren't really identities people can take on I guess it isn't so comparable. <br />I know you don't have the intention of attacking/delegitimising veg*anism, but plenty of other people do. I have actually heard it described as an eating disorder in itself. When you say "vegetarianism is a way of controlling food", I think you mean it is one way (some) people control food. Certainly a lot of omnivores regard it as inherently a way of controlling food, which is such a strange idea for me, a long time veg*n, to get my head around. Perhaps this is because I associate meat/dairy/eggs more with the animals they come from rather than as food, but also I just don't think about what I eat in terms of control or restriction.<br />Btw this is my first time commenting but I've been enjoying your blog for several months, thanks for all that you do!Ebhenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-64545751691141452732012-08-05T14:53:10.676-04:002012-08-05T14:53:10.676-04:00Yeah, I was shocked NYC was on there, but as you p...Yeah, I was shocked NYC was on there, but as you put it, I'll take it!Autumn Whitefield-Madranohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379314479257695986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-61070481077435297762012-08-05T14:46:28.141-04:002012-08-05T14:46:28.141-04:00Yay! Boston is #7 best for your skin. I'll tak...Yay! Boston is #7 best for your skin. I'll take it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03703150053201639138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-56283672702794478352012-08-05T14:13:53.023-04:002012-08-05T14:13:53.023-04:00Sobering indeed. The good news is that the Interne...Sobering indeed. The good news is that the Internet (you know, "the Internet") responded to this news with encouragement and donations:<br /><br />http://fitandfeminist.wordpress.com/2012/07/05/internet-shows-love-for-sarah-robles-americas-strongest-woman/<br /><br />It's lovely to see that this story struck a chord in enough people to make a difference here. Inspiring.Autumn Whitefield-Madranohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379314479257695986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-39240726694307620932012-08-05T14:11:51.295-04:002012-08-05T14:11:51.295-04:00I feel like this whole fiasco is a case in point o...I feel like this whole fiasco is a case in point of what Jill Filipovic at Feministe termed "callout culture": http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2011/05/02/filling-the-gaps/<br /><br />Maybe it's because I'm kindly disposed toward Gala, but I'm really just shocked at the level of vitriol that's been thrown her way. I feel like people sometimes just want to be up in arms about...something, anything? Ugh.Autumn Whitefield-Madranohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379314479257695986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-42471361369922589582012-08-05T14:08:53.510-04:002012-08-05T14:08:53.510-04:00I think they commissioned an infant to report upon...I think they commissioned an infant to report upon the standard vagina and then just took guesses from there?Autumn Whitefield-Madranohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379314479257695986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-16286454905981847712012-08-04T21:29:51.577-04:002012-08-04T21:29:51.577-04:00Speaking of weight-lifting, I suggest you check ou...Speaking of weight-lifting, I suggest you check out this article: http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/the-strongest-woman-in-america-lives-in-poverty<br /><br />Very sobering article about how Sarah Robles, an Olympic weight lifter, is barely scrapping by because she doesn't have the ideal body of an athlete.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04251119295496892016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-49476531169422453222012-08-04T19:17:54.639-04:002012-08-04T19:17:54.639-04:00Also, just throwing this out there -- How in the h...Also, just throwing this out there -- How in the heck do they even see inside to judge a vagina? It's dark up in there!<br /><br />Or -- more likely -- are they judging the aesthetics of vulvae and pretending that words don't mean things?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-30364459501578694672012-08-03T16:33:46.089-04:002012-08-03T16:33:46.089-04:00I didn't know this wasn't a recent inciden...I didn't know this wasn't a recent incident. I have been to her blog before (again via Shrinkle) and didn't remember much about her but she didn't strike me as the awful person everyone was describing in the comments there...I assumed from all the angry comments that this head dress incident was...yesterday. lol So thanks for enlightening me with what really happened.<br /><br />Personally I think even though it wasn't recent maybe she is due for a reiteration of her apology at least. (As annoying as that may be for her.) And honestly I'm surprised and disappointed that XOJane hasn't even tried to really defend her (or even point out this wasn't recent and she has already addressed it)if only so their new readers won't get the wrong idea about how they feel about such issues.<br /><br />~MaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-48100986643488574642012-08-03T14:37:15.466-04:002012-08-03T14:37:15.466-04:00Hi Mary--"treated to drama" indeed! From...Hi Mary--"treated to drama" indeed! From what I understand, the problem is that years ago Gala wore a "hipster headdress" and then didn't engage in conversation about it, is that what's going on? I had read Gala's response to it prior to writing this roundup, but didn't address is because I thought she did that better than I could. It seems as though there are people there who don't like her in general, which, whatever. I'm willing to take her response at face value--especially given that as an immigrant, she hadn't been exposed to the long tradition of cultural appropriation. (I say this as a woman who identifies as both white and Native American, for what it's worth.) What I'm getting from this is that she made a mistake and took a while to own up to it. Yes, I wish she'd responded better up-front, but from what I know of her work this isn't indicative of a dismissal of indigenous concerns.<br /><br />An anecdote: Until fairly recently, I knew next to nothing about trans issues. I didn't think I was transphobic or anything; it just wasn't something that I understood, and with the limited time I have I didn't prioritize educating myself on trans issues. So I really had *no idea* that the word "tranny" was offensive; that's what I'd heard trans people called, and not always with hate or fear, so I genuinely did not know that this had indeed been used as a term of hate and prejudice against trans people. A reader called me out on it and my response was a little defensive--I pointed out that *I* hadn't used the term but was rather quoting someone else's use of it, which was a technicality at best. With time I gave it more thought and saw what the problem was, and educated myself on it. I haven't made a public apology because the occasion hasn't risen; I think it will at some point, but it needn't. The best any of us can do is try.Autumn Whitefield-Madranohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379314479257695986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-77668099143756841142012-08-03T14:06:52.037-04:002012-08-03T14:06:52.037-04:00I assume you haven't heard about the Gala fias...I assume you haven't heard about the Gala fiasco currently in progress at XOJane then. I innocently followed a link from Shrinkle's blog to what I thought was a post about Amy (aka Shrinkle)by Gala and got treated to drama instead. :( I would love to hear your thoughts on all of it. http://www.xojane.com/beauty/gallery/amy-shrinkle-sugarpill-cosmetics<br /><br />~MaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-74894536081149383212012-08-03T11:48:48.249-04:002012-08-03T11:48:48.249-04:00Thanks for the content!Thanks for the content!Autumn Whitefield-Madranohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379314479257695986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-47708560562050708732012-08-03T11:42:34.692-04:002012-08-03T11:42:34.692-04:00Thanks for the link!Thanks for the link!Phoebe Maltz Bovyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996039330841139883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-91006537242716714282012-08-03T07:23:24.103-04:002012-08-03T07:23:24.103-04:00I just wonder about the sponsorships...I just wonder about the sponsorships...Autumn Whitefield-Madranohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379314479257695986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5689865906513225949.post-54953200246675084692012-08-03T07:15:11.936-04:002012-08-03T07:15:11.936-04:00Congratulations to patriarchal bargain maker Miss ...Congratulations to patriarchal bargain maker Miss Atlas for reinforcing and profiting from Fascist Beauty Standards™- now coming for your vagina!Carmenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12747300344198624283noreply@blogger.com